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High lake trivia: That little sliver of a lake SE of Pear Lake is called Bivouac Lake. Pear Lake was originally called Pearl Lake.
We weren’t allowed to go into the Lucifer Lake basin because of grizzly activity. They had that entire basin closed. It kind of messed up our trip because we had planned on going up on the west side of the crest right through those lakes. Which area you headed to this time?
“I’ve hiked in many of the out of state places you mentioned. I haven’t done the Cabinets, yet, but I’ve hiked in the Missions and the Great Bear Wilderness that are both fairly near. I’ve done a lot in the Selway-Bitteroot, and the Sawtooths. Easily the greatest out of state trip I’ve ever done was the Gates of the Arctic NP in Alaska. It taught me what true wilderness is and it was the first time that I realized what we call wilderness in the lower 48 is just are sanitized recreation areas that we pretend are wilderness. In the lower 48 parts of the Bridger in WY and the Absoroka-Beartooth in MT should also be mentioned. Mike, we’ll have to compare notes on some of the places we’ve been.”
“Fawn was last planted in 1989 and 1996. Fish can live to be 12 years and older in Pasayten Wilderness lakes. I don’t know the size distribution of the fish you caught, but that size range could be explained by either planting. I don’t know enough about the fishery there to say one way or the other, but there could be some limited natural reproduction contributing to the catch, too.^^^^In general, fish will grow very quickly for the first 3 years. At that point they reach sexual maturity and the production of gametes takes a lot of energy. Where lakes are overpopulated fish will grow slowly and then completely stop growing as all energy is put into egg and sperm production and you’ll get a lake full of 8 fish. If a lake is extremely productive and the population of fish is low enough the fish will put on a lot of early growth and then keep growing after they have sexually matured. Most lakes fall somewhere in between. They will keep growing after 3 years, but only very slowly. ^^^^A couple years ago there were a ton of logs across the trail to Fawn. Are those still there or have they been cut out?”””
None of the lakes you are planning on hitting happen to be on the stocking list this year. I’ve only got a couple lakes to do this year and neither are terribly exciting 🙁
I ran into a guy lying about where he’d been on another discussion board a few weeks ago. He was trolling for information on a lake. I guess he figured if he claimed to have been there someone might be willing to give him more info. He hadn’t realized the lake was frozen solid at the time he claimed to have been there. When pressed on details it became clear the guy had never even looked at a map in any detail.
Things are starting to open up. We were up at Otter and Azurite (4520) over the weekend. Both were open and there wasn’t a lot of snow around.
That’s a tough question McPilchuck. My favorite area tends to be the last place I visited and the place I want to go next is somewhere I’ve never been. I suppose if I were forced to pick a favorite area it would be the area inside NCNP because it is so rugged and beautiful but I’d have to mention some stuff in the Glacier Peak area and I wouldn’t be able to forget much of the Alpine Lakes and …
I was fishing a lake at 4300′ today and there was no snow anywhere near by. But it was down/over in Yakima County and appears to have winter killed this year. Cayuse Pass (4675′) still had lots of snow hanging around. No snow right at White Pass (4500′) but some snow was visible in the upper parts of the ski area.
“It makes sense that the upper lakes would be frozen. I’ve been up there over Fourth of July weekend and they were still frozen solid. In fact, we built and slept in an igloo at Copper Lake on that trip. The igloo did quite a bit of melting overnight, but it still held us sitting on top the next morning.”
“I agree. There has been a lot of talk about an alternate designation that would be less restrictive on recreation then wilderness, but still protect areas from resource exploitation and I think that is a good idea, but this area deserves full wilderness protection. At the same time, leaving an area like Barclay Lake out of the wilderness means that area can still be loved to death. From what I’ve been able to glean, this seems like a well thought out wilderness bill.”
“I figured if you were having problems other people would be, too. Plus, my initial attempts to duplicate one of the two initially supplied themes ended in failure and we had to rename and use one of the themes they supplied.”
