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  • in reply to: AP: Fish stocking in North Cascades lakes set to end #86552
    Brian Curtis
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      Lakes with self sustaining populations that are not overpopulated are unusual, but not unheard of. In the case of non-reproducing fish hold-over populations are taken into account in both the stocking rate and frequency to assure the lake does not become overpopulated.

      The other question is, are you sure your lake hasn’t been stocked? The Dept doesn’t publicize the stocking of small, remote lakes so it is entirely possible the lake been stocked.

      in reply to: Dangerous neurotoxin #86691
      Brian Curtis
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        Here’s an article that explains what they know about the algae in Anderson Lake. It is likely itrogen or phosphorous entering the lake that is fueling the blooms. Two dogs died drinking the water in 2006.

        http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20090415/news/304159995

        in reply to: hurricane peak #85610
        Brian Curtis
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          It was beautiful when we went up. That was the trip out so we didn’t have much choice. 😕

          in reply to: hurricane peak #85608
          Brian Curtis
          Keymaster

            You mean weather like this? 🙂
            [flickr:2pxswqgy]Ridge above Crater[/flickr:2pxswqgy]

            in reply to: hurricane peak #85606
            Brian Curtis
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              Yeah, and we had to haul out their whisky bottles.

              Four parties in there is an amazing crowd for that lake. Hopefully the washout will relieve some of the pressure.

              in reply to: Deep Lake Trip Pictures #85838
              Brian Curtis
              Keymaster

                You can get all the information here.

                The failures on the lower part of the road were because of the rivers and streams while the 4 failures on the upper section were slumps due to unstable slopes. There are lots of pictures of destruction and detailed explanations in the EIS.

                in reply to: hurricane peak #85604
                Brian Curtis
                Keymaster

                  Seventeen people camped at Crater? That’s absurd. How many parties was that? We went into Crater in the early eighties and some logging outfit choppered their crew in for a season ending bash. They were drinking lots of whisky, whooping it up, and shooting guns across the lake. That was fun 👿

                  in reply to: Deep Lake Trip Pictures #85836
                  Brian Curtis
                  Keymaster

                    They are going through the public comment period for the White Chuck road repair right now. It looks like they’ll probably only repair it as far as the Rat Trap Pass road and decommission the last 5 miles or so.

                    in reply to: AP: Fish stocking in North Cascades lakes set to end #86549
                    Brian Curtis
                    Keymaster

                      Stopping stocking and leaving naturally reproducing populations alone seems logical and that’s exactly the approach the NCNP wanted to take 20 years ago, but it turns out to be exactly backwards from both ecological and angling perspectives. When fish reproduce in high lakes they almost always over-reproduce. They become severely out of balance with the carrying capacity of the lake and they harm animals native to the lake. The NCNP studies concentrated on their effects on zooplankton and amphibians. They found that when a lake is full of over-reproducing fish they didn’t find the populations of long-toed salamanders that should have been in the lakes. They also found that community structures of copepods shifted from larger predatory species to smaller grazing species.

                      Conversely, in lakes stocked in low densities they found the expected populations of copepods and salamanders.

                      Where fish over-reproduce you end up with a lake full of small fish that have no way to grow because they have little food. The fishing is lousy.

                      Having found over-reproducing fish to be doing harm the NCNP is determined to remove them. I support that effort and think it needs to be extended to other wilderness areas.

                      Because stocking in low densities was determined to do no harm the preferred alternative in the EIS allowed for continued fish stocking. But the Park Service stepped in and is undermining the EIS process in an effort to stop all high lake stocking in the park.

                      The cost of stocking is extremely low. The fish are stocked as fry so hatchery costs are minimal and most stocking is done by volunteers at no cost to the state.

                      in reply to: AP: Fish stocking in North Cascades lakes set to end #86544
                      Brian Curtis
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                        The author of this article at National Parks Traveler call Chip Jenkins and got a bunch of new quotes. This is required reading for anyone interesting in hearing the Park Service’s side of this issue.

                        The most troubling and revealing quote from this article is this one concerning what the effect would be if fish stocking authorization occurs after 1 July: “If passage comes after July 1, it could create some tense moments for the Park Service.”

                        in reply to: AP: Fish stocking in North Cascades lakes set to end #86540
                        Brian Curtis
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                          Here’s a nice blog take on the article.

                          in reply to: AP: Fish stocking in North Cascades lakes set to end #86536
                          Brian Curtis
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                            There is a very slanted summary of this article with no link to the original posted in a blog at about.com

                            in reply to: Lake Isabel Trash…UPDATE…Cleanup day 6/13/09 #86521
                            Brian Curtis
                            Keymaster

                              Thanks a lot for putting this clean-up together. I’m very interested in helping if I possibly can. Keep us posted when you settle on a final date.

                              I can’t believe the FS won’t allow you to take a cutting torch up to dismantle that box. If you heated a pot of coffee with it couldn’t you say it was your stove?

                              in reply to: Green and Cedar River Watersheds #86453
                              Brian Curtis
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                                I think you can drive to within about a mile of the Lester townsite.

                                in reply to: Green and Cedar River Watersheds #86451
                                Brian Curtis
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                                  Abiel is another one in the watershed. The public isn’t allowed to enter so all those lakes are off limits. Way back in the early eighties or so then bio Bob Pfeifer made a proposal to use Findlay as a golden broodstock lake but he was told no.

                                  Having been in the watershed, my cynical side is convinced they mostly don’t want people there so they can hide how they’ve cut all the trees.

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