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    • #81408
      Kid fishin
      Participant

        “Are there any fish at Park Lakes?”

      • #85553
        Brian Curtis
        Keymaster

          That’s a really good question and I wish I had a good answer. There should be fish, they have been stocked. We are trying to get surveys from the Park Lakes this year to evaluate survival. The lower lake is an especially tough one. It looks great, but avalanches have deposited a ton of logs in the lake and there are a lot of bubbles from the organic materials decaying. Theoretically, that could cause a dissolved oxygen shortage and prevent fish from surviving the winter. We really need surveys from those lakes to find out how well the fish have made it.

        • #85554
          mcmahon2005
          Participant

            I saw a presentation about the Alpine Lakes Wilderness today at the fly show in bellevue, park lakes was in it and according to them, it does hold fish.

          • #85555
            Brian Curtis
            Keymaster

              Who put on the show?

            • #85556
              mcmahon2005
              Participant

                3 peaks outfitter. They talked about a bunch of lakes and creeks in the waptus and cooper lakes area. I had a feeling they were stretching the truth a little with the size fo fish though.

              • #85557
                Brian Curtis
                Keymaster

                  I was looking around Three Peaks Outfitters website when I came across this photo. They say this is a brook trout from the Alpine Lakes. Is it just me, or does that look more like a bull trout then a brook trout?

                • #85558
                  Jonathan Leathers
                  Participant

                    Dolly?

                  • #85559
                    mcmahon2005
                    Participant

                      ya, they said it was a dolly around 23″. Caught out of Waptus Lake.

                    • #85560
                      Brian Curtis
                      Keymaster

                        They claimed Dolly in their show? That’s some relief. It is a Waptus Lake bull trout (no Dollys there but they look the same). The website said brook trout and it was quite disturbing to me to have a guide not be able to identify the fish in his area correctly.

                      • #85561
                        mcmahon2005
                        Participant

                          Haha, ya, that wouldn’t be a good sign if they couldn’t indentify their fish. Over all though they seemed like a decent guiding service.

                        • #85562
                          Brian Curtis
                          Keymaster

                            Odds are that photo was taken before the rule went into effect, but this is probably a good spot to remind everyone that it is illegal to remove Dolly/bull trout from the water when they are going to be released and they are not legal to keep in Waptus Lake.

                          • #85563
                            McPilchuckblazer
                            Participant

                              Bull Trout!

                              McPil



                              I’ve caught tons of Dollies for over 45 years and the Bull Trout chacteristics are different in appearence than Dollies as far as I am concerned. Liken to characteristics between a Deer Creek native summer-run steelhead and a natural-spawned (in-river) hatchery summer-run on the Nfk Stilly…entirely different appearence but to the untrained eye similar. The Deer Creek native summer-run does not resemble in form those native summer-runs of the Stilly whatsoever. Neither do Dollies and Bull trout IMO and I’d argue it with any Bio.
                              McPil


                            • #85564
                              jackchinook
                              Participant

                                Hmmm. Their website says brook trout.

                                http://www.3peaksoutfitters.com/ghunting.htm

                                Being a bull trout fan, I’m sending a friendly reminder. It’s one thing for someone to mis-ID on a trip report but these guys are using it as promotional material to make $$$. Not cool.

                              • #85565
                                jackchinook
                                Participant

                                  Had a nice (email) conversation with Scott, the owner of the service. He seemed like a good guy who understood the implications of BKT vs BT. Caption has been changed to a more ambiguous ‘quality trout’ instead of incorrect Brook Trout.

                                • #85566
                                  Kid fishin
                                  Participant

                                    brian, my dad and i went cross-country( 👿 %!$#@%*&%$#&*^@!) to lowar park lake; no fish at all!

                                  • #85567
                                    Jim Mighell
                                    Participant

                                      Re: Park lakes – These lakes have been stocked for decades with many different species , and I have never seen a bona-fide report of fish caught – I was there 2 summers ago and saw no fish food organisms whatsoever in the lower lake in early august.

                                      Fishing in Waptus Lake is excellent at times for both Brooks and Bull trout, and there have been several pics that depict fish that look like Hybrids between the two. WDFW states that those species WILL hybridize, thus a fish that looks externally like a bull trout could well be a hybrid, and thus legal to keep. I thought it was interesting to see the large rafts in the picture – is it possible they were taken in by helicopter (Wilderness).

                                    • #85568
                                      allison
                                      Participant

                                        Has anyone caught a purebred Bull in Wappie lately? It’s my understanding that there have not been any documented catches of them there since 1991.

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